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Studio: Buena Vista Home Video Release Date: 03/02/2004 Run time: 96 minutes Rating: Pg
The surprising truth about Disney's 1982 computer-game fantasy is that it's still visually impressive (though technologically quaint by later high-definition standards) and a lot of fun. It's about a computer wizard named Flynn (Jeff Bridges) who is digitally broken down into a data stream by a villainous software pirate (David Warner) and reconstituted into the internal, 3-D graphical world of computers. It is there, in the blazingly colorful, geometrically intense landscapes of cyberspace, that Flynn joins forces with Tron (Bruce Boxleitner) to outmaneuver the Master Control program that holds them captive in the equivalent of a gigantic, infinitely challenging computer game. Disney's wizards used a variety of cinematic techniques and early-'80s state-of-the-art computer-generated graphics to accomplish their dynamic visual goals, and the result was a milestone in cyberentertainment, catering to technogeeks while providing a dazzling adventure for hackers and nonhackers alike. Appearing just in time to celebrate the nascent cyberpunk movement in science fiction, Tron received a decidedly mixed reaction when originally released, but has since become a high-tech favorite and a landmark in special effects, with a loyal following of fans. DVD is a perfect format for the movie's neon-glow color scheme, and the musical score by synthesizer pioneer Wendy Carlos is faithfully preserved on the digitally remastered soundtrack. --Jeff Shannon
- The Original Matrix Movie
Loved this movie when saw it as a kid. And it still holds strong even today. This movie definitely had an influence on the new Matrix movies. But this is much more family friendly...it's Disney!...more info
- Too old to be trendy
That was maybe an interesting film when it came out but now it is obsolete and old-fashioned. The "plot" is too complex to be clear apart from the thief who steals the intellectual property, and copyright, of someone else and gets the profit and the fame for a computer game he never produced. Then the attempt to introduce a super controlling software to take over all games is slightly overdramatic and leads to a messy situation in which we hardly recognize the characters, apart from them being red or blue, because of their costumes or uniforms or whatever that hardly let their noses and eyes peep out of the dark grey plastic. The special effects are today very old and lack a lot of elaboration. They are simple and the whole film becomes humdrum after a short while.
Dr Jacques COULARDEAU, University Paris 1 Pantheon Sorbonne, University Versailles Saint Quentin en Yvelines, CEGID
- A Good Job!
This is another of my favorite movies. This DVD copy is great. I like the way they did the menu on this. Another great movie!...more info
- The birth of digital candy...and it's a classic
I watched this DVD again last night, just to see if it was only my memory recalling some of the "good old days" or to see if this really is a classy and classic film. Well, it turns out that it was NOT just my selective memory thinking that this was an awesome show! It is a classic bit of sci-fi and movie-making history.
I recall the first time I saw TRON. I saw it at a matinee when I was in college. I told my friends about it...I went back again that night, and to the matinee again the next day.
This movie represents a great example of the genesis of computer animation for full-feature films. It was originally released in 1982, and now, 27 years later, it is still extremely watchable, though the special effects are extremely dated - even so, I still think that the disc games and the light cycles are the coolest! The light cycle game has even resurfaced in a game called "Light Bike" that came on my son's iPod touch. Take that detractors!
One of the things that made this film memorable was not only its computer graphics, but it was released in the hey day of video game arcades. The joint experience of this movie and the phenomenon of classic video arcades made for a memorable experience.
As for the movie itself, well, the acting is marginal, but the story line is intruiging, and, at the time the computer graphics were mesmerising. All in all this is a keeper, and I'm glad I have my own copy.
When I watched it last night was, however, the first time I'd watched this DVD on a big screen TV (50" 720pi plasma). I found that the image was at times a bit grainy, so that was a little distracting, but not significantly so.
So, all in all I award this DVD 4 stars. If you remember hanging out in video game arcades, the launch of MTV, and you are any kind of sci-fi fan at all, then this is a must-have product for you.
- OK in the 1980's, deeply disappointing now...
This film was considered really out there and revolutionary when it was released, and while the film has a great central concept, its execution is boring, stilted, clumsy, and disappointing. It wasn't a particularly good film back in 1982, and it's even worse today. The computer effects, while still interesting, seem antiquated and really are only for nostalgic people who miss Atari and Colecovision. The lead characters (except for Jeff Bridges, who is so good all he has to do is show up, and David Warner, an excellent British character actor) are boring, and the actors who play them (Bruce Boxleitner and Cindy Morgan) are tepid. Boxleitner, who plays Tron and Tron's "user", is especially limited, dull as paste. Many people think that Bridges played Tron, but he doesn't (he should have). Morgan is cute, but she's just cheesecake here (the only other film I remember her in was in Caddyshack). While the film was mounted handsomely (shot in 70mm), it's a simplistic film, with bad, wooden dialogue and choppy pacing. The score by the great Wendy Carlos is excellent though, and is available on CD.
Tron reminds me of The Black Hole, which came out a few years earlier and was a pretty ambitious movie for Disney. It also had (for the time) great special effects (which still look good), but had a lousy, simplistic story that undermined the film. The Black Hole had better performances and was the better of the two films.
If you have an inkling for 80's nostalgia and video games, rewatch this film. Otherwise, it's a really dated film that will probably produce chuckles and boredom rather than a sense of awe. ...more info
- Before the Matrix there was Tron
Tron in many ways was supposed to be a big hit. It had ultra cutting-edge special effects for its time and the story seemed to be pretty cool. However the film, criticized for poor acting and a lack of a coherent plot made the film a minor success. Since then it's become a cult favorite with its audience steadily growing over the years. I actually first experienced Tron through Kingdom Hearts II, the Playstation 2 videogame with the world of Tron as one of its levels. I got interested in the movie so I rented it and while it's not to me buy worthy, it was certainly an entertaining film.
Tron isn't actually the computer world name but one of the main characters. I don't even know what the name of it is but anyway. The Master Control Program(MCP) has been turning the computer world into a kind of militaristic world, with second-in-command Sark making people play videogames until they "de-rez" or basically, die. Unfortunate for Flynn who is zapped into the computer world and has to team up with a program named Tron to defeat the MCP and save computer land.
Even typing that plot, part of me is thinking "good lord, that is kind of silly" but since I play quite a lot of videogames with tales of flying fortresses and airships and mystical beasts, I just let it slide. Some people couldn't figure out the plot but to me it kind of made sense although I'm no computer expert so all the "geek speak" tends to fly over my head.
What attracts people to Tron is most likely the animation which is one of the first if not the first heavily-CGI extensive film and while it doesn't have the pristine shine of recent films, it's certainly quite a visual feast, especially if you're watching it for the first time. The much-praised lightcycle is just as cool as people describe it and the film's quite colorful. However I found that the novelty value went down where I wasn't wowed anymore and was like "okay, on with the story". Oddly enough the film didn't even get nominated for Visual Effects Oscar since people thought they "cheated" by using a computer. Nowadays, every Visual Effect Oscar has to include computers. Screw models, matte paintings, miniatures and in-camera techniques and stunts, if you got a computer and you're talented at it, you could get nominated.
It's a film that feels slow at times and story might be hokey but boy is it a blast to watch, just don't pay attention to most if not all of the acting at times....more info
- "TRON in KINGDOM HEARTS 2!"
Yep, that's right! If you like the movie "TRON" then you'll love playing in it on KH2 for PS2. Ever since I played it I now wanna by the movie!...more info
- My nephews love it!
I disagree with the reviewer who commented that younger gamers wouldn't appreciate this film. My nephews, ages 10 and 12, asked me about Tron after the recent release of Disney's "Kingdom Hearts 2", which features levels based on the film. The SciFi Channel recently aired the movie and I recorded it to my DVR for them. They loved it, and when I told them I needed to delete it, they asked me to find it on DVD.
There are aspects of the film that are quite dated, but it did help the boys visualize basic concepts of information systems, and was timeless enough to get them to actually appreciate a movie from when I was their age!...more info
- TRON Rules
It's impressive how a 20 year old movie explained what's everyday's life in the actual world
Disney's best movie...more info
- Alice oops Flynn in wonderland
What would computers appeared like to the uninitiated, 20 plus years ago? Even as we watch this remake of Alice every one knows that computers were getting smaller even then. But this is a fun romp with love and loyalty, and now with time campiness.
The nasty old MPC (Master Control Program) wants to rule the world vis-¨¤-vis remove human contamination or at the least play like "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (1970). Only the "Users" (a loose term invented by the moviemakers for programmers) can defeat him. Flynn (Jeff Bridges) and a hand full of loyal programs including Tron (Bruce Boxleitner) will attempt to do so running into many quasi computer parts along the way. Will they succeed or will their side issue with the lovely Yori (Cindy Morgan) sidetrack them from their mission.
Jeff Bridges looked cute in those days and David Warner (Master Control Program Voice) had just enough touch of evil for a Disney picture.
Colossus - The Forbin Project
War Games (25th Anniversary Edition)...more info
- Great show
It is a great show, considering when it was made the graphics/special effects are pretty well done. I would reccomend buying it...more info
- A Glimpse Inside the World of the Computer
In 1982, we were given a glimpse into the soul of the computer, a view into cyberspace that was known only to a small handful of pioneering programmers. Twenty-three years later, Tron was clearly a brilliant film, far ahead of its time and showing a world that makes only more sense as technology progresses further.
Tron is a story of independence in the world of the computer. Two primary characters struggle for freedom in the world of electrons. The first is Alan Bradley (Bruce Boxleitner), who works from inside the system, developing a program called Tron-a security program to monitor contact between systems and to put a stop to unauthorized connections. The second is Kevin Flynn (Jeff Bridges), a brilliant programmer whose work-a series of video games that became a big hit when brought to market-was stolen by a greedy insider called Ed Dillinger (David Warner). Dillinger's program, a system-wide command-and-control program called the Master Control Program (MCP) operated as did Dillinger, by annexing others' work that would be useful and destroying everything else. Designed to run independently, Tron would stand in the way of the MCP's unauthorized intrusions and annexations.
When Flynn crosses the MCP in an effort to reconstruct the evidence to show that Dillinger stole his work, the MCP uses a molecular transportation system to bring Flynn out of the real world and into the world on the other side of the screen. Working in cyberspace, Flynn works with Tron and a small cast of supporters to bring down the MCP and return freedom to the system.
Being only nine years old when it was released, I didn't first see the movie in the theater. Four years later, I was somehow familiar with the movie and had some idea that it was one that I wanted to see-though I cannot remember whether it was for the first time. My parents were invited to a card party on the evening it was to be broadcast on local television and somehow or other, my siblings and I were also expected to go. To ensure that I would not miss the movie, I procured a videocassette tape and programmed the family's VCR to record the movie in my absence. When we arrived at the party, my siblings and I followed our parents through the process of making greetings. As the host tried to convince my father to remove his necktie (apparently having some objection to a man dressing properly for a social event), we children were directed to a separate part of the home where we'd not be likely to interfere with the heavy-duty card playing that would be taking place on the main floor. Finding an obliging television that would allow me to watch the movie even as it was being recorded at home, I really had no objection to being temporarily sequestered downstairs. I still have the videotape, complete with stupid commercials, and it is not in good condition.
Tron shows computers and their programs as being far more than cold, simple tools configured to improve efficiency in various business functions. It shows the world of computing from inside of the machine, where programs bear critical characteristics to their creators and interact with each other in a complex electronic world in an attempt to carry out the wishes of their users.
The film reflects a vision of computing that has been described by such pioneering programmers as Alan Kay-for whom the movie's Alan character is named, who saw the world as full of small computing devices that people would have all around them, and whose programs would work as agents that would be sure that people had access to the information that mattered to them whenever they wanted it. These were radical ideas in 1982 and it was by no means clear that people would ever understand this vision of the future. Now firmly into the twenty-first century, we can see that this is indeed just what computer technology is all about. Others were more focused on immediate problems of data processing, estimating the total worldwide market for computers would be something like six, asking why in the world anyone would ever want a computer at home, or otherwise failing to see computing beyond the set of stuff that could be made, marketed, and sold in the immediate future. In a late-evening argument between Dillinger and Dr. Walter Gibbs, the technologist who founded the company that employs them all, these competing philosophies of computing were presented.
Dillinger: I can't worry about every user request that comes in here.
Gibbs: User requests are what computers are for!
Dillinger: Doing our business is what computers are for!
Central to telling the story was the characters and their dealings with one another. Tron is a no-nonsense program, dedicated to the commission he was given by his user, Alan, himself a quiet, slightly awkward, analytical professional programmer. Flynn is brilliant and jovial ("Now how are you going to run the universe if you can't answer a few unsolvable problems?" Flynn asks the MCP). Flynn continues his work with or without sanction, unafraid of those who would call him a renegade. When brought into the world of the computer, he uses his insights and power to do what must be done-and that which cannot be seen or executed by the programs incapable of seeing beyond the options handed to them by another. ("I hate to disappoint you, but that's the way it is most of the time for users, too," he tells Tron and Laura's program Yori.)
Laura (Cindy Morgan) is another programmer at Encom. Her life's work is the laser that they're using to digitize matter, suspend it, and reassemble it at will. It's her work and her laser that the MCP uses to bring Flynn into the world of digits. She's smart and prizes intelligence in others around her; she's loyal to her friends and she can assert herself when the need arises. Yori reflects all of these traits, aligning herself and her work Tron just as Laura aligns herself and her work with Alan.
Walter is the gray-bearded sage who founded the company but rather than spending time in the executive suite, he spends his time in the laboratory, building things. His counterpart in the world of the computer is Dumat, the guardian of the I/O (Input/Output) Tower that the system needs to communicate with the world of users.
Dillinger is greedy and unprincipled, doing whatever he believes necessary to achieve his objectives without regard to his impact on others. He originally created the Master Control Program, which came to mirror his personality and began its process of acquisition that made it smarter and more powerful still. His counterpart in the machine is not the MCP itself but Sark, a program that the MCP uses to oversee all of the functions of other programs in the computer. As the story unfolds, we see that Dillinger is not as powerful as he is believed; like Sark, he has become an agent of the MCP. ("You wouldn't want me to read up Flynn's file on a VDT at the Times, now, would you?" threatens the MCP when Dillinger tries to assert some authority over it.)
What I was able to see through the characters of Flynn, Alan, Laura, and Walter is that there are people who need to think up the things that computers can do and then figure out how to do it. A year or so later, I would come across Steven Levy's Hackers and learn about some of the real people represented through the characters shown on-screen. By this time, I was already a programmer and often found myself far ahead of most of my classmates when it came to making the machines do interesting things.
As my final year of high school drew to a close, I spent some time thinking about operating systems and decided that if I really wanted to know how they worked, I was going to need to do more than use operating system made by others. I had already done quite a lot with getting Apple Computer's ProDOS 8 and ProDOS 16 to behave according to my wishes instead of their usual specifications. I decided that I wanted to understand how to make multiuser systems like those mysterious Unix systems that I was learning about. After high school graduation, I set about building my own operating system. Using a strange Apple DOS 3.3 implementation modified for use on my Apple IIGS 800kB 3.5-inch floppy disks called AmDOS as my filesystem and interface to hardware, I wrote a shell program that allowed the user to enter commands for the computer and to launch programs. Once the shell was working, I created a new program that would prompt the user for a username and password; a successful combination would cause a specified program-in practice, the shell I wrote, but could really be anything-to be executed and failure would simply begin the authentication procedure anew, tersely displaying LOGON: before waiting for input from the user. I called my shell the Master Control Program and designed the user interface to appear like screens that appeared in the movie.
My high school vocational training in data processing on IBM System/36 systems to write programs in OCL, BASIC, RPG II, and COBOL showed little regard for the human side of computing. It was all business and about as boring as can be. Fortunately, by then I had discovered The Network, such as it was at the time, and came to be acquainted with people who were then wired. That was the group that had vision, that was making something because of a higher calling, the sort of imperative that would drive creation-the same sort of calling that was heard by Newton, Leonardo, and Archimedes. The mundane matter of how to get paid was, at most, a secondary consideration. In that world, imagination was prized, as was technical skill. Those who would succeed would need to have plenty of both. In this meritocracy, degrees, certifications, and institutional affiliation were irrelevant. What mattered was the work.
Tron was far ahead of its time; released fifteen years later it might well have become a blockbuster, though by then, much of what was being presented was becoming the obvious conclusion to the adoption of all of the technology around us. It's unlikely that I would have gone in some other direction but for the film; I had already written some simple computer programs by the time I was nine and did independently find many other avenues into the world where creativity and technology intersected. Even so, the film was prescient at the time of its release and helped to influence my ideas about computing and what was possible. If you want to understand what's happening inside of your computer, my advice is to begin by watching Tron....more info
- FUN FOR RETRO REVIEW FOR TODAY'S COMPUTER "NERDS"
*****DO NOT USE MY REAL NAME!! USE A NICKNAME OF'KATBYTE'*******
My son, who is a computer 'nerd', 'geek', or anything else one wishes to call him except HACKER, which he is not; was born in 1989. He loves this film because he can see how the minds of experts and developers were functioning at that time. The TRON XBox game is also very popular. My son is developmentally-disabled with Asperger's Syndrome, a type of high-functioning autism. He is highly verbal although his speech is pedantic and momotonus, his vocabulary will blow you away. He has the typical autistic social inadequacies and skills. This is where computers come to the rescue. This film helprd him understand the timeline of computer and robot development. ...more info
- what can you say
What can you say...this movie is part of the CGI bible. Truly groundbreaking in CGI. It's funny, the plot's good and it really showed the way of the future in CG based effects. Can't go wrong with this purchase. I'll be honest I haven't watched the special features yet but the movie alone is worth the price....more info
- Don't listen to those other reviews, this is a classic!
I've read so many reviews TRASHING the special effects of Tron and its plot. First of all, it's easy with our modern ILM and digital masterpieces like Lord of the Rings and Star Wars, Jurassic Park, etc. to criticize a movie made in 1982 but the bottom line is that the effects, for its time, were amazing!! I remember as a kid watching this movie with my mouth hanging open. I watched it, as a matter of fact, this week, on DVD and it still impresses me.
The key to being thoughtful and critical of movies is to be able to watch them in the context of their time. I could easily watch Star Trek episodes and say, "ha!! Look at that! Since our FX are so much better now days, that series isn't even relevent!!" That's, in a nutshell, what I read one reviewer saying, that the FX of Tron are corney by modern standards to it's irrelevent. Not at all.....
I think the plot, and keep in mind this IS a Disney movie, though simple, is a good one. It deals with a big brother government that wants to make everyone think the same, live under one rule, if you're not with us you're against us, etc. kind of government. To be in good standing with the Master Control, one must not believe in the "users," or, to the computer programs, 'God.' So, atheism is the key to getting good training, promotion and success. Those who oppose the MCP are treated like Roman Gladiators only to perish. Flynn takes on an incarnation of sorts becoming a "user" and a "program" almost resembling a kind of computer Christ. Very interesting notion. Neat parallel. The movie if full of Christian-type allegories and overall is very entertaining.
There is no sex, hurtful violence or garbage. Clean movie, I as an adult still love it, and it's in general a great flick. Give it a break folks! ...more info
- The Game of the Century
The incredible influence the movie had on the use of computer graphics can never be understated; and through the "game" that drives the action is a thought-provoking exploration of the human soul in the age of an amazing technological revolution that seemingly makes the individual nothing more than a museum piece.
David Warner (Ed Dilliger, Sark, voice of Master Control Program) does an excellent job in personifying evil. And the battle between good and of evil is brilliantly illuminated by Jeff Bridges (Kevin Flynn, Clu), Bruce Boxleitner (Alan Bradley, Tron) and Cindy Morgan (Dr. Lora Baines, Lori).
The wealth of bonus material includes a look into the designing, storyboarding, digital imaging and marketing - which was extensive - of the film, along with a look at the deleted scenes.
Rarely can a film be definitively pointed out as one which truly helped revolutionize the entertainment industry. This is one of these very rare cases.
- Real enjoyment depends much on nostalgia.
Let me first say, as a matter of integrity, that I was NOT born when Tron was first made and furthermore that this is a review of the movie itself, and not this particular edition. And while I was (when I was a child), and still continue to be a fan of 80's action movies with a strange depiction of technology, it really is difficult to recommend it to modern viewers.
The truth is, Tron isn't aging that well. On one hand, I feel almost obligated to say that this should be required viewing for the modern moviegoer, if not just to be introduced to the roots of the transition between brick and mortar to digital movie sets. On the other, 30 years have made the visuals almost laughable. This wouldn't be a problem if the plot consisted of more than a "outwit some generic baddies and kill the main antagonist" plot with some cheap techno-satire thrown in. It consists of little more than this.
For a cyberpunk experience more palatable to today's audience, I would feel more confident in suggesting something along the lines of Bladerunner (a film which has aged VERY well), A Scanner Darkly... even first Matrix really.
Despite my gripes, however, I must admit that this film never fails to achieve a certain degree of charm. I just suggest that maybe you rent before you buy....more info
- Games Without Borders
"Tron" is one of Disney's singular live action achievements. Before the Matrix, before Dark City, Disney tackled virtual reality. One may chuckle at the primitive special effects now... but it still stands as a timeless classic. It's got a thrilling,suspenseful story,an interesting premise,good acting,and a cool techno score.
"Tron" is about a young video game designer,Flynn (Jeff Bridges,in computer geek slacker mode). His ideas have been pirated by the evil Dillinger (David Warner,enjoying it) Flynn has to regain his programs. He plunges into the world of virtual reality--meeting up with Tron (Bruce Boxleitner,in his pre-Babylon 5 days) and Sora. They are part of the "Electric Gladiator Games." They ride lightcycles,they compete in a form of jai alai,the traditional Basque game. In the extended edition,there are deleted scenes,such as a suggestive love scene between Tron and Sora. Tron sacrifices himself to save the day.
For Boxleitner,his Tron role made up for not receiving the coveted role of Luke Skywalker (at the time,called Luke Starkiller) Tron IS a memorable role,even for those of us who haven't seen him in Babylon 5.
"Tron" is truly an electrifying movie. Plug in!...more info
- The definitive 1980's technology film.
Tron was a part of my childhood growing up in the 70's and 80's: a science fiction fantasy set in a perceived future where the mainframe computer would become a force to be reckoned with. The brilliant, albeit primitive, merging of photography and digital imagery, combined with the incredible musical score by Wendy Carlos (a deliberate hybrid of orchestral and electronic instrumentation - the soundtrack alone is worth purchasing), made this film a milestone and a must-have for any sci-fi lover.
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- Tron is Great
Received the movie in excellent condition. I've played it several times on my DVD and the features are all I've hoped for and more....more info
- great for scifi collectors
It is one of the first (if not the first) movie that used computers in making the movie. ...more info
- TRON rules!
Being from the Atari generation... it's clear to see that TRON was a revolutionary movie. This movie must not be judged by its inherent bad acting, and 'prehistoric' CGA sequences - but rather judgement based on the genious endevour depcting what might occur inside of a CPU assuming that programs, disk utilities, and general computer functions have conciousness.
A must for any techno-dorks like myself that revel in our computer age world.
This is where it all started. TRON. dont miss it....more info
- Awesome Movie
I can't say enough good about this movie. It was amazing then and still holds my attention and imagination. The effects aren't as good as today but watch the bonus features for this movie, those effects were cutting edge at the time. Amazing to think about what they were doing back then with computers....more info
- The best film since black cauldron
Back in its time this wasone the most comnfiscated and most expensive Disney Movie every made. Before the release of Narnina and the Newer stuff came out. When and ex computer executive tries to hack into the computer to prove that his boss stole credit for video games that he designed, he is thrown into and adventure that rivals that of the Digmom movie. Can Flyn and his program Tron stop the evil MCP, his minions Spark and his user partner Diligner. Find out in this thrilling 1980s features from disney filled with phonimal effects classic 1980s disney action and adventur. If you like this I also recommend Cloak and Dagger and the Digmon Movie for die hard anima slash scifi fans.....more info
- A movie for those who loves to daydreams!
I know a lot of reviews have been done on this movie- as I am typing this there are 22 pages worth of reviews on this movie but it doesn't matter who get to see this review - this movie is a rare treasure for those who likes to be creative and stand out from the rest of the public. For one thing, it uses as its background a type of 80s computer graphic not seen in any movies since after - bold neon colors on a grayish to black background similar to computer and videogames played from that period. By compare, there are 50 or more cowboy movies that are made based on a actual period that last less than four years for the Wild West theme or on actual events like the apache wars which last at least 10 years (I'm not sure exact - I'm not familiar with that period - just bits of facts from that period). The numbers of movies based on 80s theme computers may numbers less than five. There are enemies that break up into polygons like triangles, rhombus instead of dust or other methods and that give it a unique experience. It will also show those who have been born after the 80s an experience of what that period was like.
Actually I was introducted to the movie after playing the game, Kingdom Hearts 2 for Playstation 2 - I didn't know it exists because I was a little kid back then and sci fi wasn't my thing.(I'm a late comer)...more info